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High school ASB fund empty

The Quincy High School Associated Student Body reserve fund has run out of money.

At Tuesday’s Quincy School District board of directors meeting, QHS principal David Talley said the fund, which had swelled to between $50,000 and $60,000 about five years ago, is now empty.

“A few years ago, we had a large reserve. Maybe it was too large,” he said. “Our gate revenues used to be higher, and our costs were lower. We used to have a lot more vending machines in the schools that would generate revenue before health guidelines curtailed some of that. For our expenditures, we have continued to spend out of the reserve, and now it’s gone.”

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The ASB fund is used to provide for costs accrued by the school’s extracurricular activities, mainly clubs and athletics. The money for the fund is generated by students through fund-raisers and other activities, as well as the sale of ASB cards and gate receipts from certain athletic events.

Talley said recently there’s been a “disconnect” on the part of coaches and club advisers about where the money came from and how they could go about using it.

“They’re taking money out of the reserve and not fund-raising to put it back in,” Talley said. “Everyone I talked to said they didn’t know they were supposed to do that. They’re not understanding that the word ‘budget’ means that they have the capacity to spend a certain amount of money; it doesn’t mean they have the money. They have to raise that money and put it back in the reserve.

“The district has always supported the ASB and athletics, but it doesn’t help with the bats, balls, helmets, etc. That’s what the reserve is for. But nobody wants to point fingers at anybody else or anything like that. We want to work together to try to get this fixed.”

Manny Ybarra, who coached the QHS wrestling team from 1985 to 2008, told Talley, Dickerson and the board that the high school’s coaches were given faulty information about their budgets in 2008 and 2009.

“I’ve done some research, and during those two years, there was virtually no money transferred from the ASB to athletics,” he said. “I was told that I had $1,000 to spend (for one year) and not to overspend, so I spent about $800. The next year I was told that my budget was $1,000 and not to overspend, but I didn’t know that only $200 was in the coffer. The coaches didn’t know about that, and they’d continue to spend and spend. That’s how we drew ourselves further into the hole.”

Ybarra said that he’s been in contact with several current QHS coaches who are seeking answers.

“Why aren’t the sports getting some of the money that they’re raising?” he said. “Shouldn’t they at least get a little bit? Why are the revenues going into the general fund? Why aren’t they going back into athletics? Why was athletics cut out of the transfer from other departments? The coaches feel as if they’re getting pointed out for doing certain things, but they didn’t know exactly what was going on. I’m trying to figure out why we weren’t told about some of these things. If coaches are told not to overspend their budget, the majority of them aren’t going to overspend.”

Talley said that in theory, if a sport generates money through a fund-raiser or other activity, the money should go to the specific sport’s line item and not into the general fund. One way of generating money for the fund, he said, would be to organize bigger fund-raisers that would contribute to the entire fund instead of having individual teams or clubs raise smaller amounts of money for their particular activity.

“This needs to be a collective effort,” he said. “We need a more clearly-defined and systematic way of fund-raising.”

Talley said the school is looking at purchasing computer software that would help coaches and club advisers to more easily track their particular budgets and see exactly how much money is coming in and going out at any time.

“That will help out with the transparency,” he said. “We want to reduce the amount of questions and increase the scrutability of the system. The more eyes we have on the budget, the better off we’ll be.”

Dickerson added, “We want to be open and clear about how this is done. We want people to be aware of how this works and have access to the necessary information. Under Mr. Talley’s leadership, it appears as if that’s going to be the case. There’s obviously a great need for clarity. Nobody wants to do anything wrong. We just need to get a more functional system, and that’s what we’ll do.”

4 Comments

#1

School dist TAX PAYER commented, on May 14, 2010 at 8:23 a.m.:

Sounds like to me someone doesn't know how to keep a budget, doesn't know how to say "NO", or needed a little extra cash. I can't help but think that somewhere in this whole mess, there is a bookkeeper, who should have been well aware of the financial deficit and made the person dishing out the money aware of the issue. So in my opinion, there is one of two people to blame for this, or its a case of theft. One, the bookkeeper if the books weren't kept right. Two, the person giving out the money, who can't say "NO". And the only other possibility, which I hope is not the case, "Embezzlement". I think an "Audit" of the books is in store to answer all those questions and accountability needs to prevail in the end. School finances are no different than ones of a big business, or any business for that matter.

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Dustin commented, on May 16, 2010 at 2:59 p.m.:

Maybe they should start with no free meals at L&R cafe every week for the ASB Officers. I know that was happening when I was there back in 2005. sounds silly but why is our money going to feed the ASB officers every week. It adds up after a while.

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Amazed commented, on May 27, 2010 at 10:21 a.m.:

In this time of economic difficulty, it is amazing that the District is practicing such fiscal irresponsibility. I am sure there are concerns about embezzlement but no one actually stole any money. The bottom line, however, is that the District office runs so many covert operations that they must consider themselves the CIA. Essentially, the person at fault here is the Business Manager. It is her responsibility to monitor this - what she has done is shift many of the items that used to be funded by the District to the ASB Reserve, primarily because she feels the Reserve is too large. Shame on you, Business Manager. I feel sorry for the coaches, teachers, and students at QHS, and hope that the real story comes out in Mr. Allen's suggested town hall meeting. Good Luck QHS - you will need it.

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to amazed commented, on June 2, 2010 at 6:40 p.m.:

Does Business Manager have that much power? no they do not. Something is being covered up. An audit is needed. Heads should roll on this!

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